User talk:Ladywinter

In game Hellos

Yeah, I do play on Tarlach, what was it I bought, I can't remember xP You should come onto the sites IRC so we can chat in real time some time xP Hotarugirl 16:36, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Lol, no problems. I'm on there all the time these days talking with the sysops and offering help wherever I can. Hotarugirl 21:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure where to replay, so I'm going to do so here. Hello, back at you. I recognize your name. I know you on Tarlach somehow, don't I? -Izme1000 13:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Eiyuu

Ah, hey milday. You do know you can quit the Fireball Quest and resume it later with all the pages right? That is what I did with my Arrow Revolver Quest. The quest says you must complete the book, not that you have to collect all the pages. So, what I'm trying to say is that you can still collect the pages without the quest. As for the template...how do I use it? n-n;; --Eiyuu 2:04, 10 March 2009

Correct. You will be able to resume the quest whenever you want. As for the template thanks, I will get on that as soon as I can. But...what are tildes? o-o -- Eiyuu 12:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks. But I still fail at it. ^^ -- Eiyuu 7:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Well...I just forgot the process of it... n-n;; -- Eiyuu 12:07, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Deathbob

I think we need a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Inuse on this wiki. -- Deathbob 00:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

What/Where is the meaning behind table colors? Or is it random? -- Deathbob 15:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Enchants - Jacobpaige

I had actually started doing something similar, but in a sortable manner, see my page for an example --Jacobpaige 23:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Well if you look at the second column (marked Dex) you'll see the amount that you gain from that particular enchant. The sorting is done by clicking the arrows at the tops of the columns and will allow you to sort by whatever criteria matter most to you (to a limited extent at least).--Jacobpaige 09:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

It's mostly a test page, when I'm happy with it I was planning to replace the Dexterity (and other stat entries) with it. So that people could simply search for the stat they were interested in and not only get a description of what it did and how it did it but also how to increase/decrease the stat as well. I've put it on a backburner for the moment though, since I'm not sure which enchants were implemented and which weren't.--Jacobpaige 18:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Well the whole point in creating it was to give people a "one stop shop" kind of page, so that they could get all the information they needed about a particular stat without having to refer to any other pages. Otherwise this would be pretty pointless since its just a compilation of information that's already available on the wiki.--Jacobpaige 22:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I suppose I could add a column for Implemented (y/n), then when it was implemented people updating it would only need to change the 'n' to a 'y', and possibly the name of the enchant. I'll give it a shot when I have a bit more time and see how it looks. Thanks for the idea :) --Jacobpaige 03:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

If you want to help then I'm not about to stop you ;) Do you know anything about cooking though? I want to add 5 star foods too, but I'm not sure which ones are implemented. Seems kinda sloppy to just put a ? in the implemented slot --Jacobpaige 20:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Well the gains are all listed on the wiki already, the problem is that none of them are marked as to whether or not they're implemented. Changed the table to add implemented column and wikified the notes section a bit. Anything else you think should change before I standardize the other charts?--Jacobpaige 21:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

People need -str for their proffing alts and -int for when they're attempting to fail at enchanting (which is required if you're starting late and already have large quantities of int) also you need - damage for proffing alts and I'm sure there's someone somewhere that could benefit from negative gains on any other stat as well, with the possible exceptions of mp and stamina, though, I'd be inclined to include them anyway for consistency's sake.--Jacobpaige 00:56, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Honestly its probably better to do positive and negative at the same time, I just didn't bother because it was more of a test page and at the time I was still going for the skillful title so I didn't care much about negative gain. If you're wanting to help with the enchants specifically then adding in the Iria updates or the negative gain enchants would be very helpful.--Jacobpaige 18:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to just edit the one on my page, it'll make it easier if we have to change the format for some reason.--Jacobpaige 17:49, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Was mainly keeping it to Dex till I was happy with it, figured I'd cut+paste it to the Dex page when I was done along with the description of Dexterity from the Status page. If you'd like to start with a different stat then I'd just make a page for it. You'll have to overwrite the redirect to do it though.--Jacobpaige 09:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Btw, do you think we should add a section detailing which skills are effected by the stat? ex: weaving, refining, ranged attack etc for dex. I think it would be useful information, but I'm not sure we could make it a complete list since for some skills the stat that is believed to effect it is more superstition than certainty.--Jacobpaige 09:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Its cool, its just a reorganization of information so its not as important as your map.--Jacobpaige 09:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Looks good, but four things: 1) why the different color for the name? 2) page should be called Mana Points and redirect the page MP to it, since this won't be just an enchants page 3) I kinda liked the blue/green/red color coding of the effects, it made it easier to tell at a glance what else the enchant was going to do 4) if you're going to DeadEiry the enchants you should include the drop locations too, which may get a bit complicated since some enchants can come from 2 or more places. --Jacobpaige 05:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

1) uhh...that's probably a coding error, lemme look into it

2) right! good point

3) ummm, I'm not sure how to do font colors in DeadEiry, the coding kinda hates you if you put a equal sign in, hmmm, but maybe I can code it into the template as a if/then? lemme look into it.

4) d'oh! that's a brain fart, I totally had the drop locations in the data I just forgot to put it into the template. XD -- Ladywinter 08:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Why would you need separate data entries for positive and negative? the way you're doing it now should be fine. --Jacobpaige 16:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The enable column might be a good idea, but I'm not sure its really necessary. People that are looking for those enchants are generally just looking for something to help them get a different enchant on, and that's covered quite well on the enchanting sequences page. Plus, the green really stands out so its not hard to scroll down and find the very few entries that will have this, especially if you've sorted by rank first since they'll all be at the higher end.--Jacobpaige 16:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Well if you're going to do that then you might consider just having the rank green (ie: 5) and leaving a footnote explaining what it means.--Jacobpaige 16:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

The Total Damage column should probably be removed though, str doesn't effect magical or ranged damage after all. This should also contract the table a bit making it less vertical. You might also just list the enchant scroll name with a footnote for the enchanted item's name. The real problem is the drop locations though, and I'm not sure how to condense that.

I could be wrong but I think Darkness is the same way.--Jacobpaige 21:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

The name of the page should probably be Damage Modifiers to make it easier to find when searching. Or even just Damage since it'll eventually be expanded beyond just the enchants etc.--Jacobpaige 16:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Well I had originally intended to replace Dexterity, Strength, Intlligence etc with these pages since atm all they do is redirect to Status. Was planning to cut+paste the info currently on the Status page, possibly follow it with a list of effected skills and then the tables detailing how to alter the stat temporarily with enchants, food, pets etc. then possibly put a "See also" link somewhere referring back to Status. Which is why I'd said that you'd have to overwrite the re-direct when you made your own pages.--Jacobpaige 21:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by messy? all you need to do is

 1) type the name of the stat (ie: Dexterity) into the search field. 
 2) copy the text for the stat you typed 
 3) click the highlighted name of the stat you searched for (at the top under the page name) 
 4) click edit page 
 5) erase the redirect and paste the description 
 6) input the various tables 
 7) add a "See Also" section at the bottom with a link to the Status page 
 8) save

but if you really don't want to do it that way, then you can just create the page wherever and "move" it to its final home when its done.--Jacobpaige 03:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Well if you want them all on the same page then you might consider spoiler tags to hide the tables, the main reason I wanted them to have their own pages was because of the massive amount of space each stat's tables would take up. Which would make for an inconvenient amount of scrolling if they were all on the same page.--Jacobpaige 08:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I was being ambiguous then, I meant that they should be in both places. But if you only want them in one then the Status page is probably the better of the two.---Jacobpaige 18:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Please try your best to keep all the enchant related pages organized. I really don't feel like doing alot of editing. --Kevin ^(•Talk•) 03:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Just a suggestion, but when you make your enchant pages (if you do, unless you're doing by category) make the page name '{EnchantName} Enchant'. -Kevin ^(•Talk•) 23:22, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Monster Categories - Hotarugirl

Well, this is still on my todo because I still haven't come up with the 100% perfect classification system I would like to have before I made any changes, but that's my fault for being a perfectionist xP. I was originally thinking of using something all-encompasing and scientific like the linnaean taxonomy. However, the more I thought about it the more I realised it's far more complicated that we need. More recently I'm wondering if subcategories are even needed at all. We are not in the business of categorising or classifying the fomors for scientific analysis or anything. And if there's anything I know for certain it's that the complex subcategory structure that exists at the moment makes it a lengthier and more complicated process to find the monster you are looking for via that method.

So, I now think that we should either remove all subcategories for the monster category, and place all pages related to monsters directly in this category. Or have a handful of very broad subcategories, such as "Humanoid" and "Invertibrate" and go down no further than this one subcategory. Taking World of Warcraft for example, all enemies in the game fall into a set group of categories, with no subcategories within. From memory, these are Humanoid, Beast, Undead, Giant, Elemental, Dragonkin and Unclassfied. --Taru

With your permission, I'd like to copy our discussion to the Category:Monster talk page, and get eveyone's two cents worth. --Taru

Category:Monsters - here you go ^^

Succubus Top? - Answered

I'm guessing for Nao, since I can't wear it??? -- Ladywinter 08:22, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I hear it's for a Succubus collection book. -Kiyobi 09:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Try an Elf. It says no 'human' :3 -Izme1000 13:10, 24 March 2009(UTC)

lol! -- !!!!

They're for the Succubus collection book. Here's the link to the book. Hakumei 20:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

ahh, thank you! I didn't know that was released! =) -- Ladywinter 05:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Small note, the collection book doesn't get Succubus Clothing as many seem to think. Rather you get a standard-type banner for your house. There was a thread at guru on it.

http://www.mabiguru.com/forums/mabinogi-talk/12646-succubus-dress-collection-book-vol-1-a.html Hope this explains things. --Mystickskye 01:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)